Meet the Press - September 4, 2022

Contributing sentiments towards policy:

77% : Because I want to talk about these law enforcement - That sounds terrific.
59% : I work well with law enforcement - been, you know, a medical examiner for over 15 years.
56% : Mr. Johnson is the president of the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund, which provides support to officers charged with crimes.
56% : The culture within the law enforcement agencies, culture within those local law enforcement agencies.
55% : Yes, we can take our cues from some of these outliers as to what we're talking about but also some of the sustained racism that we may see in law enforcement.
54% : I mean, law enforcement should have unique identifiers.
54% : It came out in May of 2015 and it, and it said this: "Law enforcement culture should embrace a guardian - rather than a warrior - mindset to build trust and legitimacy, both within agencies and within the public."
53% : Joining me again are Rebecca Brown of the Innocence Project; Professor Paul Butler of Georgetown University; Jason Johnson, president of the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund; and former D.C. Medical Examiner Dr. Roger Mitchell.
51% : There are still more than 20 states with law enforcement bills of rights.
51% : But if we're willing to change the culture and really work towards changing the culture of policing towards this guardian mindset and reward community that lives in community, that loves community, that operates in community and have those same people want to be the law enforcement in community, versus people coming from outside communities, policing those communities, that mindset of guardian is easier than you would think.
50% :Well, that's going to be on the law enforcement, right?
50% : So I think we have to be mindful of the fact that the conversation we're having about police reform or improvement is going to inform a young person who maybe is interested in serving in a guardian role in law enforcement.
50% : No matter what it is, we expect law enforcement to be able to respond to it, and that's not really what they're fit for.
49% : At that point the criminal law enforcement interest was over.
49% : There are so many other aspects of the system that need to be reformed to really ensure transparency and accountability of law enforcement.
47% : Anton's Law didn't just, you know, repeal the Law Enforcement Bill of Rights.
46% : no evidence was found that restraint by law enforcement directly caused or significantly contributed" to it.
46% : I think, you know, they don't - you know, instead of sort of fighting accountability measures and fighting transparency measures, I think unions would do well to look at, you know, what is being asked of law enforcement and thinking about, "Does this even make sense?
42% : And in each step of the way, I'm going to talk to experts on policing -- a scholar on race and criminal justice, the president of a police defense fund, and the director of the Innocence Project as well as a former medical examiner.
40% : It's special protections for law enforcement that are facing allegations of misconduct.
40% : But I suggest that it's a homicide, that whether they intended to kill him or not, the actions of another human - whether they're law enforcement or not-- those actions that lead to a death are homicide.
39% :There's - for me, there's no doubt that there's - that we're putting too much on law enforcement.
38% : Who is going to be against the law enforcement bill of rights when you look at this, on here?
33% :Now Maryland now has a law, and it's called Anton's Law, that essentially gets rid of this law enforcement bill of rights.
31% : For instance, law enforcement that are accused of these things can sometimes have cooling off periods, five days, 10 days before they're even interviewed or interrogated.
29% : It took you about a year to get everybody - did you get pushback from law enforcement?
25% : I think that there's a philosophy and culture that if there's an altercation with law enforcement, that often, if law enforcement didn't mean to kill someone, then it's an accident.

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